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Do you remember just how stupid all the
Spider-Man plans that came out of the Sony hack sounded last year? Among other things they were trying to set up
a Black Cat spinoff movie, Venom, Sinister Six, and even
an Aunt May prequel! Now, none of
those ideas sound crazy in and of themselves (aside from the last one, that
is), but with the number of heroes under Sony’s control (one) they just would
not have all worked as part of a straight-up movie series. And there’s really no denying that.
Fortunately, Sony finally figured
out that they couldn’t do everything on their own last year and made a deal to
include Spider-Man in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. I remember when that news broke I assumed
that this meant that Sony had fully wised up and was done wasting money on Spider-Man
movies that would only damage poor Peter Parker’s reputation.
Unfortunately, it turns out that
that just plain was not the case. Sony
is at it again,
but this time instead of doing it with Spider-Man they’re going to try it with
Venom. According to the report, Sony is
reviving that previously-announced Venom spinoff, which will not be connected
to the Spider-Man reboot which Sony and Marvel are co-producing as part
of the MCU. In case you missed it the
first time, let me just repeat that:
SONY IS
TRYING TO DO VENOM WITHOUT SPIDER-MAN!
Now, in Sony’s defense, the
gritty R-rated antihero comic book movie is suddenly the Next Big Thing™ in
Hollywood’s fascination with Cinematic Universe-Building™. And if there’s one thing we’ve learned about
Sony from their TASM2 debacle, it’s that Sony likes to bandwagon off of
whatever’s popular at the moment. So of
course after Deadpool made absolute BANK in its first few weeks of
release, FOX announced an R-rated Wolverine 3, and Warner Bros.
announced an R-rated home release of Batman v. Superman, Sony decided to
make a (presumably) R-rated comic book movie of its own. “Bandwagon’s gonna Bandwagon,” amiright?
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And in all honesty, an R-rated Venom
makes a ton of sense, just like an R-rated (in essence if not in rating) Daredevil
season 2 in which Daredevil, Punisher, and Elektra all face off against each
other makes a ton of sense. Venom is a
much darker version of Spider-Man who fights crime (occasionally) but takes his
battles to the extreme. While bonded
with Peter Parker, the Venom symbiote causes him to undergo extreme personality
changes which lead to him not just stopping villains but murdering them (and the
occasional bout of emo-dancing.
*shudders*). To try to make a Venom
movie without the violence would be a very difficult undertaking and could very
easily blow up in a filmmaker’s face.
In other words, an R-rated Venom
movie is not in and of itself a bad thing.
But an R-rated Venom movie completely divorced from Spider-Man
(and the MCU) IS.
Frankly, I don’t want to watch
Venom without Spider-Man—or at least without any chance of interaction between
the two. What really makes the character
interesting is the shared history between him and Spider-Man. Venom is originally introduced as an
alternative costume which Peter Parker donned during the Battleworld
event, but which he later discovered to be a sentient being attempting to take
over his body. In bonding with Venom,
Spider-Man transferred a copy of his own powers to the symbiote—which means
that Venom is one of the few villains against whom Spider-Man’s “Spidey-sense”
doesn’t warn him. When Venom eventually
starts to reform by fighting Carnage and then becoming a vigilante, it is
thanks in part to Spider-Man’s influence.
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Simply put, the two need
to share screen time if this Venom will succeed.
So having said all of this, what
do I think that Sony needs to do with this movie if it is going to succeed?
Answer: MAKE NICE WITH MARVEL!
If this Venom movie is
going to succeed, it has to be part of the MCU and Tom Holland’s Peter Parker
has to make at least something of an appearance. The first movie doesn’t necessarily need to
show Venom bonding with Spider-Man, but that should definitely be set up to
happen in his next appearance.
All the way back in June
I wrote an article about how some of the rumored Spider-Man spinoffs
could fit within the MCU, and Venom was right up at the top of the list. I quoted the film cycle I suggested in
yesterday’s MCU Review,
so I won’t do that again. Instead, I will
give some updated thoughts on how this Venom-related film cycle could fit into
the MCU.
First off, I
would start with a very small cameo/Easter egg of the Venom symbiote in Guardians
of the Galaxy Vol. 2. Either a symbiote
in a glass tube in the Collector’s collection or a quick glimpse of a Nova
Corps record of the “Planet of the Symbiotes” would be enough to establish that
Venom does exist in the MCU and set up the Venom movie.
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Venom
As a
follow-up to this initial Easter egg, Sony would then produce a Venom
movie—which may even be very similar to their current plan (but within the
Marvel Universe, guys!). In this
movie, the Venom symbiote finds itself on Earth somehow, sees Spider-Man in action, and bonds its way
through the street-level heroes of the MCU.
We may see Venom bond with Daredevil, Punisher, Luke Cage, and Iron Fist
in turn, but abandon each new host as a more-powerful host comes along,
eventually bonding with Spider-Man himself near the end of the movie.
In this way
we get to see Venom’s corrupting ability (which would be terrifying when mixed
with the Punisher!) at work, but the focus of this movie is really on the
symbiote itself, rather than its hosts. In
essence, this would be a take on the horror genre and make use of many possession
tropes as both regular people and heroes discover that they are no longer
behaving like themselves. The ending of
this movie—Spider-Man discovering and bonding with the symbiote—would set up
the next Spider-Man movie.
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Spider-Man:
Symbiotic Nightmare
At this
point Venom moves over into the rebooted Spider-Man franchise as Peter
Parker (the Tom Holland version) continues his heroic career while bonded with the
Venom symbiote. This gives us an
interesting dynamic as Peter Parker discovers that Venom enhances his abilities
greatly while Venom discovers something in Peter that he found lacking in his
previous hosts. The two make a good
crime fighting team for the first part of the movie, but Peter eventually
realizes that Venom is causing him to behave in ways that are antithetical to
his nature: Venom is making him far more
bloodthirsty than he has ever been in the past.
Though this
movie would probably stick with a PG-13 rating (it is Spider-Man, after
all), I think that would actually work well as Peter fights to restrain Venom’s
bloodlust. The final act of this movie
would be rather similar to the scene from Spider-Man 3, as Peter fights
to rid himself of the symbiote and finally discards him, only for Eddie Brock
to discover and bond with it instead.
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Venom vs.
Carnage
The third
movie in this cycle, Venom vs. Carnage, would spell a significant change
in Venom’s character. You see, up until
this time he has bonded with heroes, but now he is bonded to a villain. The first act or so of this movie would have Eddie
Brock (as Venom) going on a crime spree across New York City, complete with
murder, robbery, and the works. Interspersed
with the crime, however, Brock/Venom would also find himself inexplicably
stopping muggers—the influence of those heroes on the symbiote. However, Venom is arrested by a special police
task force (alongside Spider-Man), and placed in prison, where Eddie Brock
shares a cell with Cletus Kasady. The
Venom symbiote manages to worm its way into their cell, where it bonds with
Brock and breaks out of prison, leaving behind its “offspring,” Carnage, which
bonds with Kasady.
Now Brock/Venom
is on the run from the police, but he learns of another symbiote which is
engaging in a killing spree ten times worse than anything he ever did. Venom must find Spider-Man and convince him
to help him stop Carnage. Spider-Man, Venom,
and a group of street-level heroes (maybe Misty Knight, Colleen Wing, and Black
Cat) team up to defeat Carnage. The movie
ends with both Venom and Carnage placed into S.H.I.E.L.D. custody, Brock
granted parole for his part in stopping Carnage, and Kasady locked up in prison
again.
A Venom
vs. Carnage movie would have to go with an R-rating—and could get away with
it. Here we would see the difference
between someone like Spider-Man who fights against the symbiote’s corrupting
nature and Eddie Brock or Cletus Kasady who embraces and fuels its corrupting
nature. And at the same time Venom is
given a compelling reason to change its attitude and fight for good against the
evil which it itself created.
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Agent Venom
The final
movie I envision in this cycle is Agent Venom, in which Venom finds its
final (and best) host. The movie begins
with a quick montage of many of Spider-Man’s earliest fights, ending with the reveal
that these are Flash Thompson’s memories of his high school hero in action, all
leading into his decision to enlist in the Army. The remainder of the movie’s first act shows
Flash going through boot camp and engaging in a few missions, through all of
which he is inspired by Spider-Man’s heroics.
However, his final mission ends with both his legs being amputated due
to injuries he sustained in battle while rescuing his squad mates. From here it flashes into the present, where Flash
tells Director Coulson (or whoever the S.H.I.E.L.D. Director is by this point) that
all he has ever wanted is to be like his hero, Spider-Man, even if it cost him
his legs. Coulson then responds, “If you
think you’re up to it, I think we can help you with that,” before Flash is
strapped to an operating table where black fluid is poured over him. The fluid (Venom) immediately bonds with him,
covers him in the suit, and regrows his legs.
Flash then
engages in a few training exercises with S.H.I.E.L.D. which show that he has
the ability to control and restrain the symbiote’s innate bloodlust, though he
still struggles with it. S.H.I.E.L.D.
eventually decides to send “Agent Venom” on a real mission in New York City,
which brings him into contact with Spider-Man.
Flash fanboys over Spidey a little, but Spider-Man is hesitant to work
with his former enemy/accessory until he discovers that Flash has sufficient
willpower to restrain Venom. After their
mission, Spider-Man and Agent Venom agree to work together in the future.
By the end
of this cycle of movies, Venom would have undergone some dramatic character
development and have distinguished itself from its hosts in how it affects them
and how they affect it. From here Venom
(Agent Venom) can continue to make appearances as an antihero who fights
alongside Spider-Man in either Spider-Man or Venom solo films and
could also become a member of an Avengers team down the line.
So there’s
how I see Venom fitting into the MCU in an interesting and compelling way,
something that I just do not think Sony can accomplish without from Spider-Man
himself and disconnected from the MCU. If
Sony tries to turn Venom into his own series unrelated to Spider-Man,
they will not succeed in anything other than devaluing the character further
and then needing to go crawling to Marvel to help them salvage Venom as much as
they can.
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Conversely,
while Spider-Man can stand just fine on his own without Venom, I do think that
Venom makes for an interesting foil to Spider-Man. Both characters have similar abilities, and
both are capable of great good. What distinguishes
them (aside from Venom’s rather bloodthirsty personality) is what they do with
their powers. Even though Eddie Brock is
capable of doing good things while wearing the Venom symbiote, it is not until
it bonds with Flash Thompson that it is finally able to maximize its hero
potential. This dynamic would be sorely
missing if Spider-Man were unable to interact with Venom in the MCU.
So, should
Sony produce a Venom movie? Yes,
but Tom Holland had better make a cameo and Kevin Feige had better be an
executive producer!
Do you want to see Sony produce a
Venom movie? Do you want to see
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I think that this development is merely a sop to Avi Arad after he was ousted from the upcoming Spider-Man movies. I don't care about this, just as long as Marvel Studios are permitted by Sony to do their own MCU-specific version. If Sony are going to add caveats to the deal with Marvel and embargo certain characters... well, that just sucks.
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